don't ask me, or listen to what people or I say, this is offtopic noobcook: Then you need XGL, unless you were getting reasonable 3D before adding that isnt xgl just the version of beryl i downloaded beryl xgl NO xgl is a composite layer type thingy ok beryl is a window manager where do i get xgl? www.ooberxgl.com noobcook: No, it's not, it's a dirty hack that is only needed now for ATI cards ahhh new there was something like this VERRRY dirty hack IMHO well i dont care how dirty it is the world used to use xgl before aiglx aslong as ati worksproperly whats the site? ooberxgl doesnt work -------------------------- ok im gona ctl alt backspace hope it works if you can't see that www.ooberxgl.com is fake, then you are a super retard <-- noobcook has quit (Remote closed the connection) Rofl. mooooooooooo